Ernie De Los Santos
on 10/01/2017 at 12:01 am
One of the issues I’ve long had with churches is the use of both OT and NT verses to justify their own, or the group they identify with, opinions on how to interpret scripture - or worse, to claim NT verses as the Word of God. OT verses, no argument. NT verses that refer to “the Word” necessarily refer to OT, since the NT did not yet exist. Certainly, NT verses are useful for teaching, etc., but they are not reliable as the Word of God, IMHO. Nevertheless, I certainly learn how to Love others, from the NT, more than from the OT.
Montrey Willis
on 09/28/2017 at 04:02 pm
Amen... I was just having a discussion with my wife last night about quoting Bible scriptures.. I personally do not do it amongst conversation with others... my biggest example of Christ is in the way that I live ..I do stand on his word and his promises though when it comes to battling the enemy ..but I do not implicate it into my own agenda or try to twist it around to get people to see things from my point of view.. I definitely agree with the devotional for today and no I do not use the word as a weapon against my fellows but definitely as a weapon against the enemy... honestly i try to show love as Jesus would have and I stand on truth and I constantly try to stand on his word and the truth within it by the way I live.
Greg Arnold
on 09/28/2017 at 02:40 pm
Sam... read the devo again. I think we are in unity here. 😃
on 09/28/2017 at 02:09 pm
The apostle Peter said two things about the saints ... first he said study to show yourself approved simply because the enemy is lurking around looking for those he may gleam ... secondly Peter said that we should be ready willing and able to give an account for our faith ... lastly the same apostle said that we should keep our conversation honest among the gentiles so that you may not give them a reason to accuse you falsely when they speak of u in mockery .... Amen 😁
Samuel Mwaura
on 09/28/2017 at 02:00 pm
bible says that not the least stroke of the pen will go unfulfilled .... the problem am having with this devo is that the book of Revelation says we overcome him by the word of the Lord and by the power of our testimony ... in that case Jesus spoke of this word to the one he overcame saying ... Man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord .... the apostle Peter said two things about the saints ..
Greg Arnold
on 09/28/2017 at 01:11 pm
Allow me to add a little on this. When we pull a verse out of context and use it against others or to advance our agenda - it’s what we call “proof texting”. This practice actually reshapes God’s word into our own. Atheists are pros at this practice and use it to beat back Christians and turn the Bible against itself. God’s word is alive and useful for instruction. Certainly we quote scripture. The devotion closes with encouragement to use scripture to edify. However, just as the devotion was careful to point out - using scripture as a weapon to advance your agenda while beating back someone else isn’t bringing honor to God. Today’s discussion somewhat makes the point even more clear. The words were carefully written to explain “don’t use God’s word as a weapon... do use God’s word to instruct and edify.” Isn’t it interesting how different eyes interpret the same words? This helps to illustrate the care we must take when offering God’s inspired word. So, we agree in using God’s word in the edification of others. We can also agree with not using God’s word irreverently to gain an upper hand. And we can also agree to be a living witness so our lives are reflections of scripture in the flesh. Hope that helps to pull back the curtain on this one - appreciate the feedback and the thoughtful dialogue. Press on!
Jay Wilson
on 09/28/2017 at 12:17 pm
I think I understand your point Greg. Paul said we became all things to men so we can win them to Christ. And last week or a couple of weeks ago one of the messages you gave was about being Living Scriptures instead of just quoting them to show how Christian we are. Because someone may never read the Bible, but they will read it by the way that we live our lives. So I think I truly understand where you're coming from, and however when it is appropriate we do need the quote those scriptures to solidify the position of the holy spirit's work in our lives.
Joe Hinkle
on 09/28/2017 at 12:16 pm
I think that when we use the Word of God in any discussion, we need to check the motive of the heart for using the Word.
on 09/28/2017 at 12:09 pm
I agree with Dan . its needed in certain situations ....but in a respactable way.
on 09/28/2017 at 10:26 am
hmm not so sure about this one. We sometimes need to quote scripture in a discussion to show somebody a point. If we can't turn to God's word as an authority then what can we turn to? our own understanding which is limited and flawed? I think quoting scripture is ALL you should do when discussing something to do with God.

DAY 271: Wielding Scripture As A Weapon?

Every word of God is flawless; he is a shield to those who take refuge in him. Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.
 ~ Proverbs 30: 5-6

Have you ever wielded scripture as a weapon?  Quoted a phrase to win an argument?  Pulled out a verse or two to make a political statement?

Not cool. Not acceptable.

As Christian men who strive for integrity, we learn from God's word and apply it to our lives. His Word shapes us into living witnesses. Holy Spirit brings life into the story of God and us. 

Be prepared to preach without saying a word. And when scripture is necessary, be mindful of it's intended purpose. To instruct, to edify, to build, to create unity of the spirit.